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Thursday, 14 July 2011

Cell phone data plan comparison: AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, Verizon and more

Oct 28th 2010 at 11:00AM

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Cell phone data plans are hard to escape these days as hundreds of thousands of Google Android phones and Apple iPhones are activated every day. These smartphones bring access to the Web, streaming music, videos and apps -- all of which require a data connection to work. Most carriers now require a data package of some kind to be sold alongside these phones.
Over the past year carriers have rolled out many plan changes, switching from a one-size-fits all expensive unlimited data plan to cheaper, tiered-data plans. This choice is a double-edged sword. Many consumers would benefit from a smaller data plan and the carriers are competing on the cost of such plans, but also banking on the confusion of consumers to understand just how much data they need. Also, bundling data with minutes and other features makes comparison shopping troublesome.
On the heels of Verizon's new lower data plans, we've dug into the nitty gritty of cell phone data to find the plan pricing at the four major carriers: AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile and Verizon, as well as the plans available from several pre-paid carriers like Virgin Mobile and Boost Mobile.
The following chart compares the cost of just the data plans for the four major carriers. If the data plan price cannot be removed from a package of minutes, as is the case with Sprint smart phones, a price is not listed. The next chart will help you compare the cost of data plans and minutes.
Data Plan Pricing for Major Carriers (as of October 28, 2010):

Feature Phone/smart phonesmart phone only$15/Mo unlimited (no smartphones)
Because many carriers bundle the data plan with minutes, making a data plan-to-data plan comparison difficult, we've compiled the following chart that compares the price of minutes, data and sometimes texting to help you figure out which carrier would be the best deal for you. While the differences may seem minor by month, the annual cost can vary hundreds of dollars between each plan.
Data Plan Price Comparison with Minutes and Texting for smart phones (as of October 28 2010)
Carrier/Plan300-500 Minutes Cheapest Data300-500 Minutes and 2GB to Unlimited Data500 to 1200 minutes and 2GB to Unlimited DataUnlimited Minutes, Texting and 2GB to Unlimited Data
Bolded:
Prices include unlimited texting
With the new tiered-data plans, many users who don't plan to watch streaming movies or listen to services like Pandora can survive on the lower-end plans. If you are a streaming media junkie who isn't around a reliable WiFi connection, you will often want to go for the higher-end or unlimited data plans.
The good news is that the data plans can be switched easily on most carriers allowing you to pick one and evaluate your usage after a month or two. the other good news is that going over the limit is generally more affordable now, though you'll want to check with your carrier instead of assuming it has a heart.
If you want to further compare plans and coverage, we suggest you check out BillShrink's free cell phone price comparison tool, which can even analyze your current usage to help you find the best plan for your needs and location.
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Pink slip protection offered by mobile phone company

Apr 9th 2009 at 7:00PM

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Virgin Mobile is the latest company to offer price protection for customers who lose their jobs.
Starting April 15, the phone company will offer what it calls "Pink Slip Protection" that will pay for three months of its service for new and existing customers who lose their jobs. Customers must prove that they're eligible for state unemployment benefits, and must have one of Virgin Mobile USA's prepaid monthly plans that don't have annual contracts.
While three free months of cell phone use while looking for a job may not sound like much time, it's a start that should help people get back on their feet and find a job, said Bob Stohrer, chief marketing officer for Virgin Mobile.
"We hope that what we're helping people to do is get themselves situated and back into employment," Stohrer told me in a telephone interview.
Like many companies offering help to people who lose their jobs -- Walgreens, Ford, Hyundai, FedEx Office, and others -- it's a tactic to build the brand and help create customer loyalty. After all, if a business helped you when times were tough, maybe you're more likely to stick with them for the long haul.
Virgin Mobile's Stohrer admitted as much, saying the Pink Slip Protection plan could tip the scales for someone looking to buy a cell phone amid all the prepaid phone choices out there.
"Anybody who takes advantage of this is going to become a better customer for us in the long-term," he said.
The national unemployment rate is 8.5%, so its probably safe to assume that about the same percentage of cell phone customers are unemployed and could use this plan. At a time when having a cell phone is no longer a luxury but a necessity, especially when looking for a job, Virgin Mobile customers may flock to the program when it starts April 15.
"You rely on your cellphone even more when you're out of a job" and networking and trying to get ahold of employers, Stohrer said.
Customers must have a Virgin Mobile monthly plan for at least two consecutive months to be eligible for the pink slip plan. People with one of its text-only plans are also eligible, although texting to request a job interview isn't recommended.
Getting a helping hand, if only for three months, is still a helping hand.
"We're trying to help somebody get back on their feet and manage costs when they're really tight," Stohrer said.

Aaron Crowe is an unemployed journalist in the San Francisco Bay Area. Read about his job search at www.AaronCrowe.net

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Tablets are the new PCs and therefore will run Windows 8, not Windows Phone - Microsoft

Claiming that tablets should be considered personal computers rather than new age mobile devices, Microsoft on Tuesday again dashed hopes of tablets running the company's new mobile Operating System (OS), Windows Phone 7.

Speaking at Microsoft's Worldwide Partners Conference, Windows Phone President Andy Lees argued that consumers “want people to be able to do the sort of things they do on a PC on a tablet.” 



"We view a tablet as a PC," he said.

As such, Lees maintained that using the OS Microsoft built for phones on a tablet would be "in conflict" with its belief in having the complete power of a PC on any design.

A few years back, virtually every tablet on the market ran some flavor of Windows.
That quickly changed with the advent of the Apple iPad in 2010, which took just 9 months to eclipse a lifetime of prior Windows tablet PC's sales.
Since then, Windows-based tablets have continued to plummet, and now account for a meager 1% or less of the overall market, according to market research firm IDC. 

During his keynote speech, Lees instead turned his focus to Windows 8 OS and its expected networking and printing support enhancements, which he expects will drive adoption of Windows tablets moving forward, adding that the software will run on “systems on a chip” designs. 

In time, he expects that PCs, tablets and phones will come together into a “unified ecosystem.”
Lees' remarks echo comments made by CEO Steve Ballmer earlier this year promising that "Windows will be everywhere on every device without compromise." 

Windows 8, expected to launch sometime in 2012, will be the only tablet OS issued by Microsoft. It is also suspected that when the next incarnation is released, Windows Phone 7 will be faded out and replaced completely by Windows 8.
Ballmer admitted on Monday that sales of Windows Phone 7 have gone from "very small to very small," though he believes the company will make "a lot of progress" in the smartphone market going forward.

Windows 8 was announced by Mike Angiulo, Corporate Vice-president of Windows Planning, Hardware and PC Ecosystem at Microsoft, during a technical demonstration in early June this year.
In a move seen as an attempt to break into the tablet market, the company has designed the new OS to run on ARM-based architectures in addition to x86.



According to Angiulo, Windows 8 aims to make the “user experience a natural extension of the device, from the time you turn on your PC through how you interact with the applications you know and love.”

 


huge phone pricing differences between retailers and verizon wireless

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Has anyone ever experienced a huge price difference between other retailers than actually purchasing from a verizon corporate store or through verizon wireless? I called yesterday with another issue and verizon offered me an early upgrade and talked me into the lg revolution. I was told the price would be 249.99 for a 2 year upgrade. I ask the man if that was the best rate at the going time and he said yes that is currently where they are at with that phone and he explained that everyone would be that price so I went ahead with the upgrade. Today I saw something online about target having the revolution for cheap so i went to their site and also wirefly and they both had a 2 year upgrade price of 99.99 for the same phone. Anyone know why there is such a huge price difference between verizon and wirefly/target on the same phone. I called in and ask a customer service rep and they had no idea or said they had no idea their is such a difference in price but that I could reject the fed ex shipment when it comes and everything would go back to original upgrade dates and i could call and order from wirefly if i chose to do it. Anyone else had this experience and has anyone else dealt with wirefly before? Would I be wiser to refuse the shipment and order from them in a few weeks when my original upgrade date was supposed to be? I remember seeing 50 dollar differences before between mall verizons and corporate verizon/online stores but never a $150 difference plus wirefly/target is giving $25 gift cards for android store with this phone so its more like $175 cost difference.
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I bought my Droid Charge from Costco. It was 120 less then Verizon and still 70 less with my ne2.
I called and asked if Verizon would match prices and the rep told me it was an awesome deal at Costco I should buy it there. I guess big red just cares about the service.
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I noticed that as well. They are supposed to call me back tommorow and see if they can do anything about it but the one rep told me id be better off to go elsewhere. It seems really odd that even though they are already sending me the phone and all they dont want to match prices. Obviously these other reteailers must pay less for their phones than what they sell them for or something so surely verizon could match their prices and you would think it would be easier eliminating the retailer as the middleman.
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Beware that a LOT of sites (even some stores) have their own contract that you are locked into with them, some even state you can't change your plan for 6 months and if you do, a 300.00+ charge will be taken from the card you used to purchase the phone with (usually online). Also, if you have any questions, don't expect the stores to give you any help if you did not buy it from the store. If need stuff transferred, don't even think about go to the store and thinking to have it done for free if you didn't get the phone from the store.
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I noticed that as well. They are supposed to call me back tommorow and see if they can do anything about it but the one rep told me id be better off to go elsewhere. It seems really odd that even though they are already sending me the phone and all they dont want to match prices. Obviously these other reteailers must pay less for their phones than what they sell them for or something so surely verizon could match their prices and you would think it would be easier eliminating the retailer as the middleman.Corp stores are not allowed to match prices. Prices are set company wide and by upper corp.
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you would think it would be easier eliminating the retailer as the middleman.I agree 100%. I bought 5 phone back in 2008 from verizonwireless.com and paid a good amount of money. looking back I could probably get the same phone from a 3rd party retailer for at least half the price or maybe even free.
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I agree 100%. I bought 5 phone back in 2008 from verizonwireless.com and paid a good amount of money. looking back I could probably get the same phone from a 3rd party retailer for at least half the price or maybe even free.... and sometimes, you get what you paid for. Sometimes service after the sale is lacking... and sometimes the private retailer charges you for making account changes. There are some rather respectable private retailers out there... No doubt about it. Unfortunately, there are also some not-so-respectable private retailers out there, too. The internet will help you research a particular retailer's reputation...
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Wow amazon wireless charges ETF too on top of VZW ETF. I assume this applies to all 3rd retailer?
direct copy and paste
AmazonWireless Instant Discount Policy
When you purchase your device with service from AmazonWireless.com, we automatically pass along an instant discount from the carrier to you. This discount has been provided to you based on your agreement to (a) activate a new, or extend an existing, line of service for this device with the carrier, and (b) maintain this service in good standing for a minimum of 181 consecutive days. If you do not activate or extend a line of service in connection with this device, or if your service is canceled/disconnected before 181 consecutive days, AmazonWireless.com will charge you $250 per device, plus applicable taxes.
Verizon Wireless Early Termination Fee
If you purchase a discounted phone with a two-year contract and then cancel after the 14-day return period, Verizon will charge a pro-rated Early Termination Fee based on your phone/device type.
For Smartphones purchased after November 14, 2009, such as the Motorola DROID and BlackBerry Storm: Verizon charges $350 minus $10 for each full month of your Service Commitment that you complete.
For a list of advanced devices subject to the $350 fee, check http://www.verizonwireless.com/advanceddevices
For Standard Phones, such as the Motorola Barrage or Samsung Intensity: Verizon charges $175 minus $5 for each full month of your Service Commitment that you complete.
NOTE: Once you fulfill your service contract, you'll automatically become a month-to-month customer.
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The retailers get an additional commission from Verizon because you keep a data plan active for 6 months. Thus the lower price, but also the additional contract and fee if they don't get it.
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Corp stores are not allowed to match prices. Prices are set company wide and by upper corp.I call this comment false to an extent.
I was torn between the Revolution and the Dinc2. Wirefly had them for $99/$0, resp. I was a bit iffy about ordering from them. Sams club had them for $99/$50.
I asked our corporate rep if VZW could match that price for the Droid and if so I would order right then. I was told yes, so I got
it.
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Out of contract with Verizon - possible smart phone switch without adding data?

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Verizon made the change to require data plans after they had alot of bad press about peoples phones use background data, or their kids used data and generated $2,000 data charges.At&t did the same thing for the same reason. In the last year I was with At&t as a CS rep, I worked on a specialty team who applied those types of credits. Amazingly, in 1 month I applied over $400,000 in similar credits. Makes perfect sense why most major carriers now require data features on smart phones.

If I'm annoyed and you're annoyed, does that make us a paranoid ??

Sarcasm is a fine art...


"Don't believe everything you think"


It's not a matter of if you win or lose, it's how you assign the blame

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Of course, that was $400,000 in "funny money", at some pay-per-use like $20/MB or whatever rate, $1,000+ in charges covered by some $10-25 data plan.

Anyway, you don't need a IPod or tablet either. Android phone, go into airplane mode so it doesn't waste battery on the inactive cell service, turn on wifi. Put on Skype (not Skype Mobile, that relies on VZW voice, and is buggy as hell anyway) and you even have voice and texts back.


Yes, I agree, a smartphone that was not subsidized, a data block should be an option. But, T-Mobile is the only one that'll do this.


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Of course, that was $400,000 in "funny money", at some pay-per-use like $20/MB or whatever rate, $1,000+ in charges covered by some $10-25 data plan.No disagreement with you there. You would be surprised how large some credits were applied (even if I didn't agree they were deserved).
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Of course, that was $400,000 in "funny money", at some pay-per-use like $20/MB or whatever rate, $1,000+ in charges covered by some $10-25 data plan.You see it as funny money, the carrier sees it as lost revenue. That is $400k in money that they rightfully earned and now will not be collecting. If someone watches pay per view movies on cable all month long and racks up thousands in pay per view charges, is it the cable company's fault that they charge $4 per pay per view movie when their actual fees for the movie works out to be less than a penny per view? Should they not collect those fees owed to them? Or say you receive a letter from your employer stating that they will be doubling your salary. Then they come back to you after you ask why your paycheck didn't go up and they say "oops, the letter was sent to you in error, you didn't get a raise". Would you say ok, just pay me my regular salary?

Ignorance, or "we didn't know we were using data" is no excuse....just like "we didn't know the speed limit was only 30" is no excuse in traffic court when you're busted doing 55.




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Wifi interfering with phone signal strength.

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My grandson live about 100 yards from his grade school. Calls are iffy around the school. He says its because of their wifi system. This possible?
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I believe your grandson is on crack jk Wifi shouldn't be able to interfere with vz signal.

wifi uses 2.4 & 5 ghz


VZW uses 800 mhz & 1900 ghz for voice and 3g data speeds
LTE uses 700 mhz


btw, I did notice that LTE interferes with speaker




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Verizon Transferring from one 4G phone to another

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Currently have a Droid Charge that my wife isn't happy with. Found someone that has a TB that they aren't happy with (and she'd be ok with having).

So, assuming I plan to go through with it how do I go about it? Our phone is currently under contract, and I'm not sure about the other phone.


Do I just swap the SIM card and SD card (to save the pictures) in her Charge into the TB and away we go? Is there anything else that needs to be done on the account?


We already have insurance. I'm assuming it will be null and void now? What about the warranty? It's not being tampered with or anything and both are only a few weeks old.


I know that's a lot of questions but unfortunately I can't find much on the web about how it works (probably because they haven't been out very long and it hasn't really come up).


Thoughts (besides opinions about the individual phones)?

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I've read others say they just swapped SIMs, but have no personal experience or official page to link to. You could meet the other person, try swapping SIMs, then call somebody and see if it goes through to know for sure.

I'd think insurance would continue billing you on your account, but in the event you actually needed to use it that's when they'd say 'Woah, this isn't the phone the insurance was for', so be sure to cancel the insurance if you do swap them.

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As the previous post mentioned, I've read of a VZW subscriber moving a SIM from one phone to another... and everything worked. Regarding the insurance, I'm not certain how that would work.

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Called a corp. store. They said that essentially that's all that needs to be done, but that apparently the phones need to be tied to the proper accounts also (which is easy for them to do). They also said the TEC will stay intact as the TEC covers the current phone on the account. Even if I needed to drop it and re-add it, I'm still within the first 30 days so I should be good. He wasn't sure about the warranty itself, but thought that would work out ok too...but if I have TEC it won't matter...

So, hopefully it really is that easy...




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Verizon Looking for "Dumb" Verizon phone with great speakerphone

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I am looking to add a line to my Verizon plan to use a replacement for our wired home phone. In particular, I'm looking for a phone that has an excellent speakerphone (so the kids can talk to the grandparents easily...). I do not want to be required to have a data package, as it would be utterly wasted on this phone.

Any suggestions?


Thanks!


Waiting for the Droid Bionic. (Patiently? Not so much...)
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Samsung Haven. It even has a nice little charging cradle. Or home phone connect, just plug your existing home phone into it...
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Motorola E815, speaker phone is great as well as the best reception.
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LG Octane has a good speakerphone.
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Samsung Haven. It even has a nice little charging cradle. Or home phone connect, just plug your existing home phone into it...I hadn't even thought of the home phone connect product. That's an intriguing possibility...
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How about the Home Phone Connect? It's 19.99 a month for unlimited calling. You keep your home phone number AND home phone. It's real easy to use and set up. It's free with a 2 year contract or your can buy it out right for month to month for a cheap price.




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Tuesday, 12 July 2011

News of the World: Prince Charles and Camilla warned over phone hacking - The Guardian

The Duchess Of Cornwall and Prince Charles are among at least 10 members of the royal family who have been warned they were targeted for hacking. Photograph: Tim Graham/Getty Images(router,verizon wireless,wireless network,wireless internet,i phone,i phone verizon,my verizon wireless,wireless adapter,att wireless)

Police have warned Buckingham Palace that they have found evidence that the Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall may have had their voicemail hacked by the News of the World.
The heir to the throne and his wife are among at least 10 members of the royal household who have now been warned they were targeted for hacking, according to police records obtained by the Guardian. Only five had previously been identified.(router,verizon wireless,wireless network,wireless internet,i phone,i phone verizon,my verizon wireless,wireless adapter,att wireless)

A palace source on Monday confirmed to the Guardian that the prince and the duchess had been approached by police recently to be warned that they had been identified as likely targets of the News of the World's specialist phone-hacker, Glenn Mulcaire.
The revelation comes as the BBC disclosed that the emails which News International handed to Scotland Yard in June include evidence that the paper had paid bribes to a royal protection officer in order to obtain private phone numbers for the royal household.
It is believed that personal phone details for Prince Charles and Camilla have been found among the 11,000 pages of handwritten notes that were kept by Mulcaire and which were seized by the original Scotland Yard inquiry in August 2006.
The palace source said: "The question that has to be answered is: if somebody had access to this evidence back then, why didn't they do something about it?"
Previous statements by police have identified only five royal victims – Prince William, Prince Harry and three members of staff who were named in the trial of the News of the World's royal correspondent, Clive Goodman, in January 2007.
In response to a Freedom of Information request from the Guardian, Scotland Yard has now revealed that it warned a total of 10 royal victims. Eight were warned at the time of the original police inquiry in 2006. Two others were warned only after the Guardian revived the story in July 2009.
It is not clear whether Prince Charles and Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, are among the 10 victims to which its records referred. The palace source suggested that they had been warned only recently.
The remaining unidentified victims are thought to be members of the royal family, not staff. The prosecution strategy at the time of the trial was to name staff but not family.
Paperwork held by the Crown Prosecution Service reveals that police and prosecutors adopted a deliberate strategy to "ringfence" the evidence they presented in court in order to suppress the names of particularly prominent victims, including members of the royal family.
Scotland Yard took more than 14 months to provide the information, which was originally requested under the Freedom of Information Act in April 2010.
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Saturday, 9 July 2011

Phone hacking – a Q&A session - The Guardian

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Two years on from the Guardian's first story on the extent of phone hacking, the full truth of what was going on at the News of the World is being stripped bare. Photograph: Matt Dunham/AP


• The Q&A is now closed. Thanks to all who took part. We've collected Alan's answers to your questions at the bottom of this article


Sometimes the forward momentum of newspaper investigations is virtually invisible to the naked eye. It's lucky that Nick Davies is an exceptionally patient reporter because there must have been times during the past two years when he felt no one wanted to hear what he was so clearly saying.


Nick's first story on the full extent of the phone-hacking scandal was published almost exactly two years ago – on 8 July 2009. It was – or should have been – explosive. It reported that a major global media company – News International – had paid out £1m secretly to settle legal cases which revealed criminality within their business.


Instead of going back to parliament or the regulator to admit that they had been misled, the company's chairman, James Murdoch, signed a large cheque to stop the truth coming out.


With any non-media company this revelation would have led to blanket coverage, calls for resignations, immediate action by the regulator etc. Instead there was a kind of ghostly silence.


The Metropolitan police – led by Assistant Commissioner John Yates – announced an inquiry. And then, within the space of a few hours, he announced the inquiry was over and there was nothing to inquire into.


News International, doubtless pleased by this clean bill of health, came out all guns blazing, denouncing the Guardian's deliberate attempts to mislead the public. Most of the press decided it wasn't much of a story. The regulator decided there was nothing wrong. And many MPs were sympathetic in private, but indicated there was little in it for them in sticking their heads above any public parapet.


And so we settled in for the long haul. Week by week, story by story, column by column, doorstep by doorstep, Nick Davies prised open the truth. There were some other heroes: a handful of lawyers and MPs and a few journalists – on the New York Times, Independent, FT, BBC and Channel 4. But it was pretty lonely work for those at the heart of it. And there were plenty of people yawning from the sidelines, claiming it was all a bit obsessive.


But investigative journalism is a bit obsessive. Sometimes it works by small, incremental, barely perceptible steps.


Scroll forward two years and the full truth of what was going on at the News of the World is dramatically being stripped bare. Some kind of mental dam has been broken. MPs, journalists, regulators and police are speaking confidently again as they should. The palpably intimidating spectre of an apparently untouchable media player has been burst.


But what now? How can we make sure that we never again have this kind of dominant force in British public life?


One positive step yesterday was the announcement that there would be at least one public inquiry into what on earth was going on within the Metropolitan police.


There are two outstanding issues that will affect the future of the media in this country. One is the threatened imminent decision to wave through the deal which would give Rupert Murdoch total control over the biggest commercial broadcaster as well as 40% of the national press.


Anyone who reads into the story of the last two years can see that's a terrible idea. But – on the narrow grounds on which Jeremy Hunt and David Cameron are fighting – it's a complex issue mixing competition law, Ofcom, plurality and politics.


And then there's the question of how the press should be regulated. There will be plenty of calls for statutory regulation in the days and weeks to come.


I don't like the idea. I resist the notion of state licensing of journalists – and I struggle to see how there is any easy definition of "journalist" in 2011. So I would like to see self-regulation continue.


But I admit this is shaky ground. When the PCC came out with its laughable report into phone hacking in November 2009 (which, to its credit, it finally retracted yesterday) I warned that this was going to be dangerous for the cause of self regulation and I quit the PCC's code committee in protest.


The PCC's weakness is that it doesn't have the powers of a regulator. So it should either abandon the claim to be a regulator – and carry on doing its valuable work of mediation and adjudication – or else it has to acquire powers of compelling witnesses, calling evidence etc. But how does it do that without becoming laboriously legalistic and horrendously expensive to run?


These are some of the issues now coming down the slipway and I look forward to discussing them.


Comments will be off on this article until 2.30pm on Thursday when Alan Rusbridger will be answering questions live online for two hours.


Oborne goes on to allege you also warned Nick Clegg about Coulson's activities.


Is this true? If so, what were Cameron and Clegg told that is now in the public domain? What have they known all along?

alan

Peter Oborne is right. Before the election it was common knowledge in Fleet Street that an investigator used by the NoW during Andy Coulson's editorship was on remand for conspiracy to murder. We couldn't report that due to contempt of court restrictions, but I thought it right that Cameron should know before he took any decisions about taking Andy Coulson into Number 10. So I sent word via an intermediary close to Cameron. And I also told Clegg personally.


Does the Guardian have any evidence of phone hacking happening at other British newspapers ? If so, once the dust settles over NotW, will the Guardian widen its continuing investigation to these papers too?

alan

I think the bulk of Nick Davies's evidence relates to the NotW. He did write a more general chapter on the so-called dark arts of Fleet Street in his book, Flat Earth News.


To be frank, it's taken him all this time to land this one, so he's hardly had time to look elsewhere so far


The past few days have had me genuinely wondering about what, if any, licensing requirements there are on running a newspaper.


If a broadcaster had been up to what the NoW were doing it would quite rightly have been pulled off the air. So what exactly does a newspaper have to do to lose its right to publish in the UK?

alan

I'm anxious about the notion of state licensing for the press. We got rid of that more than 150 years ago (date, someone?) and I wouldn't want to see it back. In an age when anyone can call thsemselves a journalist I see difficulties of definition. Would Huffington Post have to get a licence? So, I think it's probably unworkable as well as undesirable. But I'd be interested to hear other views.


Do you agree with Oborne that this renders Cameron's position questionable?

alan

No - but I do think it showed lousy judgement. I don't think I was the only person to warn Cameron in advance about Coulson, incidentally.


Many congratulations on your determined coverage of this story. Also, do you ever fear retribution from Mr Murdoch, as many people apparently do?

alan

Thank you. But Nick Davies is the hero of the hour. I honestly don't think Murdoch would win much public sympathy if he started going after the people who have been criticising him or the NoW this week.


Media regulation. I don't like the idea of state regulation either, but we've seen that self-regulation in its current form just doesn't work. Do you see a future role for, e.g. Ofcom in providing or overseeing independent press regulation?

alan

I agree that this hasn't been a wonderful advertisement for self-regulation. The short answer is that, no, the PCC can't go on as it is. Its credibility is hanging by a thread.


We did say this back in November 2009 when the PCC came out with its laughable report into phone-hacking. We said in an editorial that this was a dangerous day for press regulation - and so it's turned out.


The PCC has this week withdrawn that report and has a team looking at the issues and at the mistakes it's made in the past.


I don't know how Ofcom could do the job without falling into the category of statutory regulation. Does anyone else?


It suggests to me that, despite the strong words in the Commons yesterday, most politicians and media outlets are still frightened of hitting Rupert where it hurts. What do you think?

alan

All credit to Ed Miliband, who was pretty forthright I thought. And I don't think anyone could say that Tom Watson, Paul Farrelly, Chris Bryant, Nicholas Soames or Simon Hughes pulled their punches (I didn't see all of the debate). I don't think that would have happened two years ago. And, this week, the Telegraph, Mail, Independent and FT have all been full-throated. Even the Times has written a leader being critical of its sister paper. So I do see a sea-change.


Do you worry that the consequence of all this, after the inquiries, and any possible prosecutions, will be legislation that, might hinder legitimate journalism?

alan

Well, I really hope not. That's been my fear all along: that, by being so feeble back in 2009, the PCC was inviting politicians to go for something more restrictive. So - for the sake of all reporters engaged in legitimate journalism - it's really important that we find a way of re-making the PCC into something that has credibility.


What do you think, David?

alan

General question on what rules we have at the Guardian.


We don't pay for stories. Reporters are told not to use private investigators without my permission. A very rare example: I agreed to use someone outside the paper, and that was over evidence of corrupt dealings by a global corporation. The Guardian did not feature on the list of newspapers exposed by the Information Commissioner in 2006.


Generally, I think the greater the possible intrusion by journalists the higher the public interest hurdle has to be.


I like the guidelines suggested by former spook Sr David Omand for his trade. I think they're good questions for any news organisation.


• There must be sufficient cause – the intrusion needs to be justified by the scale of potential harm, which might be result from it.


• There must be integrity of motive - the intrusion must be justified in terms of the public good which would follow from publication.


• The methods used must be in proportion to the seriousness of story and its public interest, using the minimum possible intrusion.


• There must be proper authority – any intrusion must be authorised at a sufficiently senior level and with appropriate oversight.


• There must be a reasonable prospect of success: fishing expeditions are not justified.


I did, incidentally, suggest that the PCC might incorporate those guidelines into the PCC's editorial codebook, but got a polite rejection.


Celebrities and sports stars have long complained about a lack of privacy in this country - with some formula 1 drivers emigrating purely to get peace and quiet elsewhere. Do we need new privacy laws to match the much stronger ones found in many parts of Europe? In your opinion what form should they take?


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Friday, 8 July 2011

Replace dumb phone with 9650

Originally Posted by ColdSunshine View Post You won't be able to text without a data plan either.This is incorrect. SMS uses the voice channel. It does not require data.

But it's a moot point on Verizon because as noted above, a data plan is required on a BlackBerry.


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